Uh, this is still a pre-production model right? 715g / 1.58 lb (SD card, Battery, H-FS12060 lens included). Canon, Sony, Pana and Olympus have all said goodbye to the sub-fullframe market and are just trying to milk the last drops out of it without as little investment as possible. More megapixels means more crop at 1:1 mode. Still, after so many years, 1080p is the most shared and watched resolution. Chris and Jordan take a look at the new Sigma 35mm F2 and 65mm F2. con la modalità 4K, un corpo macchina resistente alle condizioni atmosferiche difficili e un obiettivo per la massima flessibilità. It's weather resistant. @Richard I certainly "get" that downsampling is a great idea for any camera that (due to other double-purpose such as stills) needs a high native resolution. (And personally, I would go 4K everyday IF I had 4K 60, because 4K 30p is not super to 1080 60p in all respects. You can't have tiny cameras and great ergonomics, weather-sealing and great battery life etc. It has IBIS. And include other features related to video: display type, mic/headphone jacks, rolling shutter, color depth options, hdmi out capabilities, sound quality, codec and bitrate options and actual performance and others. If I were shooting at a quality level where 4K was needed, I wouldn't be interested in this camera under any circumstances. We've tried to summarize the trade-offs that each possible solution brings: The G95 essentially takes the fifth option here: using a central chunk of its sensor to capture roughly the number of pixels required to produce its 3840 x 2160 video. I expect this in the forums but now it seem DPR staff are joining in.If I hadnt got a G9 I would be seriously considering a G90. Compare the quality in FHD 1080p of this camera, like the GX9 with that offered by SONY and others. Is the Panasonic G85 a good camera for you? BTW, I reckon what would sell is a camera with exactly 8K 16x9 stills and an on-censor 4-to-1-pixel-averaging readout option producing very "clean" UHD with minimum rolling shutter. The detail is unreal. The 4K quality on the G95 with vlog-L despite being 8bit is superb despite being cropped. Even if my G85 didn't shoot 4K, it would still be a great camera because the 1080p quality is so good. I think that the important takeaway regarding Fuji is that like stills they seem to be saying all (or most maybe absolute bottom tier is different) our future cameras will have this level of stills and video capability. Has there ever been a time in history when a pre-production camera with a major crop that was already sent to review sites has turned into a camera without a crop upon release? Photographer and YouTuber Todd Dominey has shared a video that details the history of Kodak Aerochrome film, a film stock he says has 'an origin story unlike any other.'. The focus on merely resolution is indeed a little too much, or at least happening too fast. But to our eyes, the increased crop of the G95's video doesn't fit with our expectations of a contemporary camera being pitched as a stills / video tool. Like which camera offer no crop, which require crop, which can take 120p slow motion with sound, which claim to do "120p" on the marketing, but won't allow you to change exposure. Unless you have a complex because your cameras have some substantial deficiency with 4K. If it's aimed at still shooters who occasionally shoot video then this could be a perfect little camera. "Noise Performance" is indicated as "low". Unless you're working on a theatrical release or material for broadcasting in Europe, there's no reason to use those framerates. Glad to see Richard weighs in on the 4K crop issue, that's my biggest gripe about GX9, now G95 and stops any urge to upgrade. I only know their weaknesses in 4K. Much better off with the X-T30, a $100 rig to hold your $150 external monitor and microphone, a $500 3-axis gimbal, and a $20/hr assistant operator to deal with the dozens and dozens of 10-minute 4K clips your X-T30 is saving. Worse still is the effect on image quality and noise performance. This way you can´t get 60p, the "rolling shutter" is high as is the memory consumption in the card and in the battery. What follows are the headiest products of 2020, the ones photographers really want. @Richard Butler. The Sigma 65mm F2 DG DN is for the photographer who wants a focal length that falls squarely between 50mm and 85mm. SD Memory Card, SDHC Memory Card, SDXC Memory Card, (Compatible with UHS-I / UHS-II UHS Speed Class 3 standard SDHC / SDXC Memory Cards), RAW, RAW+Fine, RAW+Standard, Fine, Standard, MPO+Fine / MPO+Standard (with 3D lens in Micro Four Thirds system standard), Continuous recordable time (Motion picture), AVCHD [FHD/60i]: Approx. Why didn't you just make an article on crop video, mentioning a range of cameras, with the G95 in the mix of the article instead of being the "problem camera"? This year's Formula 1 cars are much faster than my old Toyota. I was editing a Wedding Video shot in 2016 that mixed 4K and HD from Panasonic Cameras and HD shot on a Canon 7D. But the release of the Lumix DC-G95 (known as the G90 outside North America) just draws attention to the fact that brand perception doesn't necessarily convey those qualities across the lineup. Panasonic Lumix DMC-G80MEG-K Fotocamera Digitale Mirrorless, Dual I.S.2, Video 4K, 16 megapixel, Kit 12-60 mm. Why would someone specifically after a 4k camera not want 4k? A quick run-through of the nine default photo styles (color profiles) on the I shoot FHD only, because for me 4K is simply not needed. Astrotripper,Frame rates of 30/60fps are used in countries where the mains frequency is 60Hz while the 25/50fps are used in countries where the mains frequency is 50Hz, that is to say the vast majority of the countries... 30/60fps are confined to USA, Japan and South Korea mainly...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frame_rate. And it's not about publishing in 4K AT ALL: -4K is the only way to get real 1080p detail on a bayer sensor-4K allows for cropping, and making pans/scans-4K gives more detail for VFX/Stabilization-4K gives 4x smaller noise structure, makes it much easier to clean with noise reduction software -4K ensures MUCH finer compression, all blocking and huge ugly patches are 4x finer, this was a major step forward from 5DII days ro GH4. Video quality also looks sharper than that of its cousin the GX85 (which also uses a 16MP sensor and skips the AA filter) and nearly as good as the 20MP GX8 . The A7III now costs less than its list price because of competition. They have to find artificial ways to keep value in the $1,500 products. 4K Video recording at 30p/24p 100 Mbps plus a 3.5mm port for external microphones. Panasonic G85 Review - G85 Image Quality. ±3 EV, single/burst, 1 to 999 images, focus steps can be set in 5 levels, 3 exposures in blue/amber axis or in magenta/green axis, [Mechanical shutter] AFS: H: 9 frames/sec, M: 6 frames/sec (with Live View), L: 2 frames/sec (with Live View), [Mechanical shutter] AFC: H: 6 frames/sec, M: 6 frames/sec (with Live View), L: 2 frames/sec (with Live View), [Electronic shutter] AFS: H: 10 frames/sec, M: 6 frames/sec (with Live View), L: 2 frames/sec (with Live View), [Electronic shutter] AFC: H: 6 frames/sec, M: 6 frames/sec (with Live View), L: 2 frames/sec (with Live View), More than 45 images (when there are RAW files with the particular speed), More than 300 images (when there are no RAW files), (Depending on memory card type, aspect, picture size and compression), 4K Pre-Burst: 30 frames/sec, approx. First of all, don’t use CAF. Ozturert I agree for some Professionals, 4K isn't applicable. It's a niche (and pricey) product to be sure, but so far we find it to be well-designed and capable of outstanding results. Yes, noise performance is negatively affected by the implementation chosen in this camera, and that's highlighted by using the red colour. None of my videos have ever been published in higher resolution than 1080 and most of the time, clients use 720 files due to file size and limitations of viewing equipment. But do you maybe expect more today? It's actually the first article I recall that singles out a just announced camera to highlight its negative points. Panasonic is far from alone in offering cameras with disappointing video, despite being well thought-of in this regard. Now mind you it is possible because my GH5 does it beautifully, but it requires a great deal of DSP. Sometimes more is less. None. That is the question. Amazon.it: Panasonic G85. Please turn it on so that you can experience the full capabilities of this site. There's a cost involved and if your system struggles with 4K and there's no demand for it, you'd be advised not to. ・ The DMC-G85 Operating Instructions for advanced features is available for downloaded at Panasonic LUMIX Customer Support Site using PC, smartphone or tablet connected to the Internet. It’s not the camera, it’s you. Thanks to its groundbreaking GH series of cameras, Panasonic has developed a reputation for being one of the strongest brands for consumer video. If you're doing professional video work, you should use a professional camera. If you're looking for a high-quality camera, you don't need to spend a ton of cash, nor do you need to buy the latest and greatest new product on the market. / Wi-Fi / Q.MENU / LVF/Monitor Switch / LVF/Monitor Disp. The new Laowa 15mm F4.5 Shift lens lets you go wide with perspective control. Dynamic / i. © 2020 Panasonic Corporation of North America. I do agree the AF flutter is really pronounced. It would be fair to point out that Fuji offers only one previous gen IBIS body to pick out as a valid concern. If we're critical we're accused of bias, if we like something we're accused of being bought-off. The major changes include a bump in resolution to 20MP, a refined design, built-in V-LogL and a headphone socket. Are you trying to gather some material from actual Photographers, or are you actually starting to pay attention? Zero. Sony producing such a great product as an A7III and with such great specs and real world results to capture significant market share from its competition sounds more like capitalism to me. My GH5 shoots 18mp video that plays in 4320p 8K on youtube.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xm0BRgyEjM. Shot one last night in 4K for nearly 90 minutes non stop with a GH5.What comparable camera can do this? Read our full review to find out how it performs. None of their clients has wanted a 4K video until now. Then the crop sensor cameras will vanish. Panasonic GX85 Review - GX85 Conclusion. Click through to learn about the G95's standout features. When you watch any movie/advert whatever, you will never ever think "I wish I took this in 4K and then downsample it to 1080p". Those resolution jumps are insane, taking into account that a motion picture is about motion, where 60p is of a great benefit. This means that the 12mm 'wide' end of the kit zoom ends up giving an angle of view closer to a 30mm lens on full frame, rather than the usefully wide 24mm equiv. Here is a short drag racing video I shot in 2015 in DCI 4K that has over 365,000 views on youtube :https://youtu.be/gITd1PFeylw. There are still plenty of people who are adamant that they don't want video, and perhaps there's something inherently unfair about expecting every aspect of a new model to exceed the best performance we've seen in its class (rather than just showing strengths and weaknesses relative to each specific rival). I'm not going for the G90. If you're going to shoot long form you need a camera with time code and a proper codec (and a decent lens). Panasonic GX85 Video: 4K with no recording limit. If you just skip lines you end up with terrible artifacts of aliasing and moire. My system does cope with 4K and shooting at that resolution offers a range of benefits. Hence these "lazy ass" updates. Buried at the end of the next paragraph are the postive aspects of the video implementation. The first is angle of view. Panasonic LUMIX G95 20.3 Megapixel Mirrorless Camera, 12-60mm F3.5-5.6 Micro Four Thirds Lens, 5-Axis Dual I.S. You also get better FHD when you downsample UHD. Have a look at our initial sample gallery taken on a full-frame Sony body. The lens, with a 35mm-equivalent of 25.5-105mm, will be available in mid-January for $799. Monogram's Creative Console allows you to build out a customized set of physical controls to speed up your editing workflow. - When the ambient temperature is high or continuous recording is performed, the camera may stop the recording to protect itself. Every camera is a set of trade offs in which talented people work hard to produce an imaging device at a particular price, size, and spec set. Even without Bayer, you need to sample the scene at more than 3840 x 2160 to perfectly re-create all the detail that can be conveyed in a 3840 x 2160 final image. I have to (sadly agree). 4K is useful there too. Doesn't matter if "you" do that. - MP4 motion pictures with [MP4] in [FHD] [HD]: - You can continue recording without interruption even if the file size exceeds 4 GB or 30 minutes in length, but the motion picture file will be divided and recorded/played back separately. Costs just a few hundred dollars and has a modest crop of 1.1. You'll note we stressed the rolling shutter rates in our spec comparison table, not just the crop. Since you don't have 12MP of RGB pixels but just 12M of R, G or B ones. It makes a fantastic successor the G7 and Panasonic has delivered a well-rounded camera that’s hard to come by, even today. Although as mentioned online, I'd say the consensus would most likely be "yes". What is hlding G9 back is the size I think and weight though. As for the G95 4K crop issue mentioned in this article: undoubtedly they chose to settle on the best possible image from this sensor/CPU combination. But I think it is wrong to dismiss this camera at this point. Besides, any editing app renders in 32bit at the end, anyways. No one expects the video from a $1200 camera with a consumer codec to look like it was shot on an Alexa. It was interesting to read about the balances of 4k; In the past, I assumed that 4k was almost beneficial, with maybe a couple of disadvantages. I like the size and weight of the G9, it's ergonomically superb. La Panasonic G80 / G81 / G85 è una fotocamera mirrorless con sensore 4/3 (2.0x) da 16 megapixels prodotta dal 2016 al 2019 (fuori produzione). I hope Fuji also wakes up does an X-H2 soon that adds IBIS to X-T3, larger battery, flip to the side display. I did not know that the G90 is a 1080p only camera. It seems more like anti-cannibalizism. Funny how I do not recall a similar article crucifying Sony A6400 for a crop in 4K/30. I could care less about video, but the camera is overpriced which is unfortunate as it is a good stills camera and has good enough video for the average Joe doing video of their kids school plays. That's fair. I hate soft looking videos like from my old (2012) full frame Sony VG900 camcorder that was the world's first full frame mirrorless since it had the same 24mp sensor as the RX1 and shot RAW stills. Good article. Standard / Vivid / Natural / Monochrome / L. Monochrome / Scenery / Portrait / Custom / Cinelike D* / Cinelike V* *When Creative Video Mode is selected. In the SONY A6500 you have to record in 4K and downscale to 1080p to get good quality. 1.48x / 0.74x (35mm camera equivalent) with 50 mm lens at infinity; -1.0 m-1, AFS (Single) / AFF (Flexible) / AFC (Continuous) / MF, Face/Eye Detection / Tracking / 49-Area / Custom Multi / 1-Area / Pinpoint, One Shot AF, Shutter AF, Half Press Release, Quick AF, AF Sensitivity, Continuous AF (during motion picture recording), Eye Sensor AF, AF+MF, MF Assist, Touch MF Assist, Focus Peaking, Touch AF/AE Function, Touch Pad AF, Touch Shutter, Program AE, Aperture Priority AE, Shutter Priority AE, Manual, ISO sensitivity (Standard Output Sensitivity), Auto / Intelligent ISO / 100 (Extended) / 200 / 400 / 800 / 1600 / 3200 / 6400 / 12800 / 25600 (Changeable to 1/3 EV step), (Up to ISO6400 in motion picture recording) (ISO Auto in M mode), 1/3 EV step ±5EV (±3EV for motion picture), Auto / Daylight / Cloudy / Shade / Incandescent / Flash / White Set 1, 2, 3, 4 / Color temperature setting, Still image: Bulb (Max. I'm sure you would be perfectly comfortable driving in a car from 1982 as well. Has 0 to do with capitalism. Maybe they're settling into more of a Sony groove where they try to cover more price points by keeping old models as the budget option, it's worked wonders for Sony tbh. The content of the article lacks any information about FullHD. 4K is less about exporting in 4K and more about getting better imagery overall. That 1.25x crop is on top of the already cropped micro 4/3ds sensor which is anywhere from 1.8x to 2.0x depending on the size of it. @otto k, that's the first time I've seen anyone say reality, necessarily separated from marketer-speak, of what 4K can be for. Tamron has announced its 17-70mm F2.8 Di III-A VC RXD lens for Sony APS-C bodies. For example, pixel binning provides much better results than line skipping when using a high-resolution sensor and shooting 1080. Panasonic basically does not suffer from it. It is probably the worst in the market (in its price range). It would be nice if more emphasis was given to the 1080p video capabilities, since most consumers don't need/won't use 4K at all. Thinking about the Panasonic Lumix DC-G95 for video? So stick with the G9 for now. 2, 4K... https://www.sony-semicon.co.jp/products_en/IS/sensor2/products/index.html, https://www.dpreview.com/reviews/image-comparison/fullscreen?attr29_0=panasonic_dcgx9&attr29_1=fujifilm_xt30&attr29_2=sony_a6500&attr29_3=sony_a7sii&attr72_0=1080&attr72_1=1080&attr72_2=1080&attr72_3=1080&normalization=full&widget=627&x=0.4066515495086923&y=-0.49113856068743267, https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4010740, https://github.com/ottokiksmaler/nx500_nx1_modding, https://www.medo64.com/2019/02/removing-recording-time-limit-on-lx100/, http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/archive/index.php/t-303559.html, https://www.thephotographyhobbyist.com/CAMERAGEAR/Panasonic-GH5-Gallery/, https://www.thephotographyhobbyist.com/CAMERAGEAR/Panasonic-G85-Gallery/, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xm0BRgyEjM, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ui3qje1GmVQ, DPReview TV: Best enthusiast full-frame mirrorless camera. Is there a cost savings?My first guess is they can save money and use a cheaper processor. Sharp will come this year with a 8k MFT camera. @photo - because of bayer. Video of vlogger or funny one are 1080 at best and not a very good 1080. Expand creative possibilities with 27 (and growing) interchangeable lens options. Maybe do a follow up table with all the current models. Dpreview video for this camera on YouTube say it’s 1080 but look like a 720 one, thanks to YouTube over compression. Great Articles Richard. PANASONIC LUMIX G80+12-60 OIS (DMC-G80M) Garanzia 4 anni ufficiale Panasonic Italia € 899,00; Panasonic DMC-G80EF-K - Fotocamera DSLM 16,84 Mpix, colore: Nero € 899,00; Panasonic Lumix G80 kit 14-140 OIS BLACK DMC-G80HA € 949,00; Panasonic Lumix DMC-G80HAEGK DSLM Macchina Fotografica, Sensore MOS 16MP, Modalità 4K, Sistema Dual Image Stabilizer a 5 assi, Post Focus, … Five years since LX100 got 4K 30fps and still the same here. It's most likely not the same sensor.